I had a pretty good meet up today with some good buddies and one of them brought up a great point from the Greatest Man book. Doesn't it look like JW's believe in hell to you from the picure of the rich man and Lazarus?
Israel Ricky Gonzales
JoinedPosts by Israel Ricky Gonzales
-
11
Do JW's believe in hell?
by Israel Ricky Gonzales ini had a pretty good meet up today with some good buddies and one of them brought up a great point from the greatest man book.
doesn't it look like jw's believe in hell to you from the picure of the rich man and lazarus?.
-
-
Israel Ricky Gonzales
-
61
For Active JW Men: Ideas on Awakening Your JW Spouse (Long post)
by Open mind indisclaimer: your mileage may vary.
if you are a married, "active, in good standing" (tm), jw male who has recently discovered that the .
watchtower is not what it claims to be, this thread is for you.
-
-
Israel Ricky Gonzales
I was a respected ministerial servant when I started waking up to TTATT. I never once wanted to share anything with my wife because it was too traumatic for me. I didn't want to traumatize her at the same time. But she kept prodding me why I wasn't myself and so I shared a morsel with her. Rinse and repeat a few week later. Rinse and repeat a few week later, again. Well, my wife ended up giving me the ultimatum: go to the elders or I will because it's my spiritual obligation.
In that process, the elders turned their back on me and did some pretty hurtful things to me, eventually disfellowshipping me. By that time, I didn't want to be a JW anyways, but I didn't want my family ripped away from me either.
There is no easy way, nor is there a tried and true method in waking up a spouse. I've heard before: The JW's are in love with the organization. Who breaks up with someone they are in love with? Only until they fall out of love with the organization will they be ready to wake up.
Those are wise words in my opinion. NOTHING will work until they are ready. Unfortunately, my wife is still in love with the organization despite the TTATT I shared with her, AND despite telling her what the elders personally did to me. It hurts like hell knowing she chose to trust and believe an organization and sneaky, conniving, heartless elders over her own husband. I don't know if things will ever be the same, even if she wakes up.
Hats off to those who have successsfully woke up their spouse, and to those couples who woke up together. I don't think I could have faked being a JW any longer than I had to when I was DF'd. I could barely give a service meeting part, go out in field service, or give a public talk when I was awake.
-
22
One year of being free
by Israel Ricky Gonzales inone year ago, this thursday, i went to work as usual.
i got home, ate dinner, got myself dressed for the meeting, and helped my kids get ready like i usually did.. my son had a talk that evening, his second one.
many of my family went to support him.
-
-
Israel Ricky Gonzales
Back at ya RayPublisher! Keep up the Struggle. -
2
Dallas / Fort Worth meet up
by Israel Ricky Gonzales ina couple of us xjws and awake jws meet for coffee and brunch every few sunday's.
im me if you are interested.
-
-
Israel Ricky Gonzales
A couple of us XJWs and awake JWs meet for coffee and brunch every few Sunday's. IM me if you are interested. -
22
Are they trying to make me feel like crap?
by StarTrekAngel inso i have not reported a single hour of fs or family worship in over 8 months.
have not given a single comment in a meeting for over a year.
a few weeks ago, my brother in law, who is an ms now, approached me.
-
-
Israel Ricky Gonzales
I would never think of asking an inactive JW to help with demos when I had parts that called for it. When I became a MS, I started asking any active JW to help with demos, just to spice things up from hearing the same 6-8 people in the congregation give demos. I asked a barely active but regular JW couple to help give the WT and Awake presentations for the month and my COBE approached me that I should run it by him who I used onstage for demos because the couple were not a zealous example.
Something is very fishy with the original post. There is probably something behind the BIL and the elders motives to ask you to do this part.
-
58
Governing body deceiving members on purpose?
by wwjdnwt ini was born into this religion.
i was a jw for well over 30 years.
i did much research before i had internet, i compared bibles and prayed deeply to help me to know if this was the truth.
-
-
Israel Ricky Gonzales
With their sneaky propaganda that WT promotes, knowing full well their own history, and still printing the exact opposite, as well as the dishonest journalism, the GB and any members of the writing committee know exactly what they are doing. But the concept of "theocratic warfare" allows the JWs to lie and at the same time justify that God is OK with them lying. Once the conscience is seared and numbed, lying becomes routine. pathological liars believe in their own web of tangled lies. -
39
Horrible Bosses
by John Aquila ini just heard this a few minutes ago by a jw friend who is still an elder in my old hall.
the kingdom hall i used to attend and my mom still attends was paid off many years ago and serves about 6 congregations.
one of the english congregations has a lot of financially well of members.
-
-
Israel Ricky Gonzales
This is just one of many occurrences of the greedy Watchtower Bible and Trap Society. I had just became Awake! to the Witchtower when they instituted the new Kingdom Hall loan forgiveness plan. I immediately thought something was extra suspicious of it and sure enough it is extra suspicious. Each congregation has a never ending loan. Remodels and new Kingdom Halls that are in need, or even just a want, have to be granted permission, which from the sounds of it, many are being denied. Then they had to turn over all money in excess of $5,000 in their bank accounts??!!! Wow!
It was mentioned already, but this is some serious brain washing going on. I am sure the elders let their wives know everything and yet they WANT to remain loyal. Jebus Christ those guys in Crooklyn are geniuses.
-
26
Australian Witnesses shock bombshelled!! Arrogant Elders at Commision on Pedophiles!!
by Witness 007 ingetting alot of e-mails from angry brothers saying things like i qoute "this is the straw broke the camels back.." "bloody idiots.." etc.
last nights news featured the australian commision into jehovah's witness elders not reporting pedophiles.
it was very damning!
-
-
Israel Ricky Gonzales
It made my blood boil when the elder arrogantly said he would destroy records again because it's what they practice. Truly sickening. -
21
Sam Herd’s comment on the 2001 Dateline expose
by Londo111 inim going by memory, so not an exact quote...i believe this was around 2002, at the crownsville assembly hall (now sold from what i understand)..
he said basically: some people watch an hour show and give up the faith that theyve had for decades..
the impact of this show was like a canon being shot into a swimming pool.
-
-
Israel Ricky Gonzales
When I lived in Maryland from 1988-1993, my congregation was assigned to go to the Crownsville assembly hall. Somehow, the PO at the time lived there in the apt designed for the CO.
I remember my elders at the time of the airing of the Dateline story making an announcement about it and warning us about watching it because it was made by apostates. It really irked my that they said a TV show was made by apostates. But, I just kept sleepwalking in the JW world and didn't watch it until last year when I had already woken up.
-
-
-
Israel Ricky Gonzales
A meet up??!!!